What now for Muslim-Western relations?


The police askes why we are only looking at the police? Linggam asks why we are only looking at the judiciary. The parliament ask why are we only looking at the executives. The rulers ask why are only looking at the monarchy. In the end nothing gets looked at. We’re back to square one. No actions on complains. People who complain gets thrown into ISA for their safety. The corrupt in power gets bolder and increasingly obnoxious.
Great argument there, Hisham. You are another example why I have zero respect for my leaders. They are not smart. And they can’t sound smart even if their life depended on it. In fact, they dont even make sense half the times. Can somebody tell me the last time anybody in BN said something intellegent that is not already a well known fact?
You missed the point, Sham. This is not selective persecution. Pushing for the IPCMC is simply saying that crime is out of control as you Sham pourself has admitted and to check police abuse of power. Why are you and the PDRM so defensive? If they have nothing wrong, there is nothing to be afraid of. In fact, if the PDRM is innocent as alleged, they should welcome the IPCMC to clear their names independently. It is only those that has shit between their backsides that are afraid to be scrutinised. Plain and simple.
– Kugan was killed by the police
– The police personnel who are responsible for Kugan’s death is still walking free, still having a job at a police desk
– Because many others have lost their lives in police custody
– Because police are gangsters who arrest without valid reasons, like how they arrested the 5 lawyers who only wanted to represent their clients
– Because police are corrupt.
– Because mat rempits and snatch thieves roam free.
– Because police are pussies who are afraid of having a beat base in Jln Haji Taib
– Because police are not impartial, always obviously acting on umno orders.
– Because police do not respect the law, illegally removing a speaker from the dewan where it has no jurisdiction
– Because police are rude as hell (Mr headhunter the classic example)
– Because police has lost the faith of the rakyat
– Because the rakyat demands the police to be cleaned up.
Way to go Ragu, I will wallk with you to PM office at Putrajaya and I am sure at least 3,000LAWYERS more of us from the bar will too. Just say when.MALAYSIA MUST avoid yet another crisis. Although oscillating between corrupt civilian governments and POLICE dictatorships, crises have been a way of life for MUSA HASSAN But this crisis IS different. It was not particularly for or against a leader. It was the third act of a grass-roots movement, led by the lawyers, in favor of the rule of law under a constitutional framework.
MALAYSIA appears to be on the verge of emerging as a functioning Constitutional Democracy, witH primacy of laws and constitution that has eluded MALAYSIA for 51 years of its checkered history.
THIS times in the lawyers, men and women in their somber black coats MUST defied the illegal edicts of the case of judicial sodomy. and succeed in forcing the government to back down.
Ragunath said”I will tell him that these are the areas that need to be looked into so that there won’t be a recurrence,” he said.
Is Nazri admitting that the Home Minister screwed up? That’s the first! I just hope he won’t backpaddle. the council had also lodged a complaint with the Malaysian Human Rights (Suhakam) Commission as it was a matter concerning a breach of human rights.”For those matters that are linked to the police, I will hand the memorandum over to Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein.
As the minister in charge of judiciary affairs, Nazri said he wanted to ensure that the rule of law was upheld
“The court action is still ongoing and we will definitely file it on behalf of the five lawyers,” he told reporters after handing over a memorandum to Minister in Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Nazri Abd Aziz at the Parliament lobby here Tuesday.
bar council got some teeth ? way to go.
Show them that nobody is beyond the law.
Najib at Odds with Tun Dr. Mahathir
“If they are not united, how are we going to realise the 1 Malaysia concept? This will not only be detrimental to the Malays but also to other races…When we talk about Malay unity, we are not talking from the racism point of view. We have accepted the fact that there cannot be a government which is led 100 per cent by Malay leaders … we have been practising power sharing for so long”
In a speech that he was supposed to have delivered at the Harvard Club of Malaysia on 29th July 2002, this is what Mahathir is reported to have said :
“When I wrote The Malay Dilemma in the late 60s, I had assumed that all the Malays lacked the opportunities to develop and become successful. They lacked opportunities for educating themselves, opportunities to earn enough to go into business, opportunities to train in the required vocation, opportunities to obtain the necessary funding, licences and premises. If these opportunities could be made available to them, then they would succeed. …… So what is the new Malay dilemma? Their old dilemma was whether they should distort the picture a little in order to help themselves. The new dilemma is whether they should or should not do away with the crutches that they have got used to, which in fact they have become proud of. There is a minority of Malays who are confident enough to think of doing away with the crutches, albeit gradually. But they are a very small minority. Their numbers are not going to increase any time soon. They are generally regarded as traitors to the Malay race. ….
Distort the picture in order to help themselves!
That the truth then was that every marginalised Malaysian, regardless of race, “lacked opportunities for educating themselves, opportunities to earn enough to go into business, opportunities to train in the required vocation, opportunities to obtain the necessary funding, licences and premises”, was buried in the distorted picture that was presented, so that certain quarters could help themselves.
11 years before that reported speech to the Havard Club, in 1991, Mahathir launched his Vision 2020 where he also spoke of establishing a united Malaysian nation; a Bangsa Malaysia, as he put it. I have alluded to this in a previous post last year. This is what Mahathir had said in 1991 of that Bangsa Malaysia :
“By the year 2020, Malaysia can be a united nation, with a confident Malaysian society, infused by strong moral and ethical values, living in a society that is democratic, liberal and tolerant, caring, economically just and equitable, progressive and prosperous, and in full possession of an economy that is competitive, dynamic, robust and resilient. There can be no fully developed Malaysia until we have finally overcome the nine central strategic challenges that have confronted us from the moment of our birth as an independent nation…The first of these is the challenges of establishing a united Malaysian nation with a sense of common and shared destiny. This must be a nation at peace with itself, territorially and ethnically integrated, living in harmony and full and fair partnership, made up of one ‘Bangsa Malaysia’ with political loyalty and dedication to the nation…The eighth is the challenge of ensuring an economically just society. This is a society in which there is a fair and equitable distribution of the wealth of the nation, in which there is full partnership in economic progress. Such a society cannot be in place so long as there is the identification of race with economic function, and the identification of economic backwardness with race.”
18 years on from that inspirational speech of his, why is it that we do not appear to be anywhere near establishing that one ‘Bangsa Malaysia’ with political loyalty and dedication to the nation ?
Was Mahathir’s Vision 2020 no different from his ‘Look East’ policy that he innovated soon after taking office, in that both were made up of inspiring rhetoric with little political will to carry through and which got us all sufficiently distracted so that the privileged hands that were raiding the national coffers could work at will and unnoticed?
What is the difference between Mahathir’s Vision 2020 and Najib’s 1Malaysia?
Is there such a difference between Mahathir and Najib that we should be encouraged to believe that, whilst Mahathiir had little impact in taking us anywhere near the Bangsa Malaysia he spoke of, with Najib, it will be otherwise ?
by Haris Ibrahim
Almost everyone knows, because they have read the above article which informed them of the relevant law applicable, which is that it is the Assembly who decides the question of the disqualification of a member of the Assembly and not the Election Commission. It is only when a member has been disqualified would there be a vacancy in the Assembly.
Now that we, the ordinary people, know the law we could very easily judge the competence of these judges of the Federal Court.
Recently, they have handed down a written judgment dated June 8, 2009 which was delivered by Nik Hashim bin Nik Abd Rahman FCJ as the judgment of the court.
The judgment appears to be oblivious of the fact that the general public is now aware of the law applicable. Since the people has been apprised of the law it would be foolish for any judge to …

Lost in the noise was that more people in Benghazi demonstrated against the extremists who were responsible for the protests that resulted in the destruction of the American consulate and the death of Ambassador Stevens [REUTERS]
In the recent wave of anti-Western demonstrations, political Islam has operated globally. The West’s response has been mired in the local politics of its separate nation-states.

It is a curious reversal of the historic imperial relation, in which it was the West who did the dividing and ruling.

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 Artist charged with sedition for anti-graft drawings, sparking debate on freedom of expression.

An Indian cartoonist has been jailed for his drawings highlighting government corruption.
Aseem Trivedi has been charged with sedition for his cartoons that “insulted” the Indian government.
His supporters say the decision is evidence of political leaders’ growing intolerance of criticism and freedom of expression. 
Muslim-Western relations are under the spotlight again after widespread protests over an anti-Islam video made in the US and cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad published in a French magazine.

“There remains this misunderstanding of the other …. Whilst we’re discussing a film and … the riots we saw on the various media, actually I think it is about neither. This is all about the dynamics of power, about a people that feel that they are still being seen as lessers of an equal. And therefore any criticism that is directed towards them or their faith … is seen as an insult, not just as a mere constructive criticism or something that ought to be taken in their stride.

– Anas al-Tikriti, the CEO of the Cordoba Foundation

Western diplomatic missions in Muslim countries are on high alert as the protests spread.

In Pakistan, the government declared Friday a national holiday to allow people to protest peacefully. But there were clashes in Peshawar and Karachi, and demonstrators have tried to storm the US embassy in Islamabad but have so far been prevented by the Pakistani armed forces.

In a bid to calm public anger the US has bought airtime, to the tune of $70,000, on Pakistani television to run a series of ads.

Victoria Nuland, the US state department spokesperson, made the announcement, saying: “In the case of Pakistan, it is common and traditional to have to buy airtime on Pakistani TV for public service announcements. So in that environment, it was their recommendation that we buy some airtime to make sure that the Pakistani people would hear the president’s messages and the secretary’s [Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state] messages.”

The US embassy in Islamabad also sent out street interviews conducted with Americans to local media with one very clear message: that the video does not represent American values.

But, according to Blake Hounshell, the editor of Foreign Policy magazine, it is unlikely that an advertising campaign like this will make any difference to those showing anger towards the US.

“It is an interesting tactic buying TV ads on Pakistani stations,” he said. “I doubt it will have much impact though. These protests … seem to be orchestrated by hardline Islamic groups that aren’t really sympathetic to these kinds of messages coming from the US government. They are looking to pressure the Pakistani government and boost their own support base. So those aren’t the type of people who are going to be responsive to this kind of message.”

Are apologies and condemnation enough? Do these demonstrations have the potential to alter policies? And what should be done by both sides to stem the anger and improve relations?

Joining presenter Folly Bah Thibault on Inside Story to discuss this are guests: Anas al-Tikriti, the CEO of the Cordoba Foundation; David Mack, a former US diplomat; and Mehmet Kalyoncu, an advisor to the OIC ambassador to the UN.

“I think the impact is going to be an extended one … because when people cross over from peaceful protests or even insults and then engage in violent acts, terrorist acts, kill diplomats, firebomb embassies, the reaction of my government, fully supported by the US people, is to close down those embassies. Right now students in Tunisia who want to get visas to the United States are unable to do so because the embassy is closed dow

In Indian-administered Kashmir, protests broke out on Tuesday against the anti-Islam video entitled “The Innocence of Muslims”. Hundreds of protesters in Srinagar, the capital of Jammu and Kashmir, tried to march to a United Nations building but were stopped by police. All across Kashmir, businesses closed their doors in a strike against the video that sparked violent outrage across much of the Muslim world.

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Angry protesters threw stones at a police vehicle in Srinagar, the capital of Jammu and Kashmir, during a protest over the anti-Islamic film “The Innocence of Muslims” on September 18, 2012.
Faisal Khan/Al Jazeera
The anti-Islam film, produced in the US state of California in 2011, has provoked protests across the Muslim world, including in India’s northernmost state of Jammu and Kashmir, which has a Muslim majority.
Faisal Khan/Al Jazeera
Indian policemen patrol a deserted street in Srinagar.
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A protester jumps over a burning tyre. A photographer for news agency AFP said protesters threw stones and set fire to a police van.
Faisal Khan/Al Jazeera
Aside from Srinagar, above, seven other towns in the area saw protests as well.
Faisal Khan/Al Jazeera
Businesses were shut throughout the region as part of a strike to protest the movie. Above, demonstrators shout anti-American slogans.

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