Karpal and Soi Lek Don’t invite Libya’s Lesson: Extremism Begets Extremism Don’t Use ISLAM as a Political Tool

Karpal and many are not afraid of Hudud but against its implementation in Malaysia. Its like asking the Malays to read the Bible when they had refuse to. All because they believed that the Bible had been adulterated and incorrect. The same with the non Muslims . They too believed that the Hudud or Syariah laws are unjust and unfair and negate human rights declaration.
Therefore it would be better for all to live under a common law for all races . Why would a religious body so eager to implement its religious laws when all others are against it? Is it not right as also they are not right to the Malays by ‘forcing’ them to stay in Islam even though one had not believe it any more? Can the Hudud laws be fair and just when it already negate the rights of one to follow his faith?This is the only way that UMNO –which is going downhill – can rejuvenate itself. Popular wisdom is that in the 2013 general elections umno weighed down by the anti -incumbency impact of fifty will be booted out of power. Karpal what would you do if BN with UMNO’s backing implement tthe Hudud law? Its not 100% sure PKR will win the next GE! Will you still say over your dead body? Again if PKR wins with majority of PAS members and they demand for Hudud what will happen? DAP leave PKR? I think when you are in a component party, it should be give and take. Well I can’t say much, because this is the 1st time, DAP is in coliation with other parties, so they think of themselves only!!

In Woody Allen’s Hannah and Her Sisters, Max von Sydow’s character comments that if Christ were around today, he’d never stop throwing up. We are crafting a world that is both godless and too full of religious dogma simultaneously. Anyone who reads science fiction knows that it’s like the collision of matter and anti-matter. Total destruction. Nothingness.

The horrifying events in Libya and Cairo, the apparent cause for these events, the responses by the presidential campaigns, and even Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s comments about American foreign policy provide enough material for a semester course on the meaning of religion, let alone a column, so just a few thoughts.

Christ — Some people revere him as divine, others not. Either way, his teachings are the most important in history. Max von Sydow is on target in pointing out that Christ would be the last one to understand the kinds of things that have, and continue to be, done in his name.

Terry Jones — This is a pastor? The most frightening thing is that many who profess to find him detestable have similar feelings about Islam, but know that it would look bad to articulate them in a country that was founded on the idea of people having religious freedom, or no religion at all.

Mitt Romney (or, another screw-up by his inept campaign people that slipped by him while he was in an exhausted state) — An American ambassador is dead. Though I’m unhappy with the Obama administration, this alone, the politicization of this kind of tragedy, confirms for me as an independent (but former Republican) that I will not be voting for Romney. But that’s not all. Romney expressed indignation at the failure of the Democrats to include God in their platform. He emphasized that he would never walk away from God. This received cheers from his audience. Whose god? Mainstream Christians ridicule his. The population is between five and fifteen percent atheist, meaning at least 30 million people, and those are just the ones willing to admit it. I guess the Constitution doesn’t apply to them. I would like to think that if He’s up there, all he cares about is what kind of person you are, and maybe even how you conduct your foreign policy.

President Obama — I wish the White House hadn’t responded to Romney’s comment – it was too contemptible. But that’s how things are in the 24-hour world. In any case, this was yet another example of how the administration’s feckless foreign policy gets us into places where we have no business being. And let’s not forget the pathetic pandering to those constituents who might think that the Democrats aren’t religious enough.

The Islamic World — Anyone who has studied Islam and really understands it knows that its principles are a direct derivation of Judeo-Christian teachings. What has caused more extreme Islamic leaders to take unfortunate turns is a warrior culture in segments of Islamic society that grew up in the so-called golden era of Islamic dominance in large parts of the world. This was no different from Christian attitudes that led to the Crusades, Hundred Years War, Thirty Years War, popes with armies, etc. Unfortunately, parts of the Middle East have not advanced beyond such thinking and into the modern world. Lack of education and economic opportunity is a major part of this, and provides the backdrop for the ease with which Islamic demagogues can whip up restless populations. Aside from Christ, I don’t think this is what Mohammed had in mind, either. We seriously need to rethink how closely we engage these situations. As individuals, we would think nothing of moving our families if our neighborhoods turned dangerous. We should extend no less protection to our foreign service, particularly when there is no clear advantage in engagement.

Israel — Talk about pressing the envelope until the seams split. For years, Israel has insisted that it can take care of itself. Baloney. Without government and private American funding as well as military cooperation, Israel would be hard-pressed at best. We have not forced a solution of the Palestinian problem, and this has become the perpetual black eye of American foreign policy. Talk to anyone in the Middle East about anything, and they point to the shiner. But it’s more complex than that. There are those in the United States who would cut Israel adrift because it is a political liability. But then, there are those who feel that Israel equals Jews, and, as such, isn’t worth worrying about (or worse), while there are others who are committed to Israel’s survival either because they are Jewish, or because they’re Evangelicals who tie Israel to biblical prophecy. The religious overtones make reasoned dialogue even more difficult than it already is, and submerges the straightforward issue of creating peace through meaningful negotiation that would produce benefits for both sides.

Is all this God’s fault? Of course not. But somehow, the creatures He created (or who evolved on their own) have re-entered the Tower of Babel, and have no idea of, or interest in, what they’re trying to say to each other. When people don’t love each other, they don’t love God either, regardless of how much they pray or profess that love. God must be on vacation. He couldn’t possibly be responsible for the shape of the planet. Bye. I’m going to take my turn throwing up.

Since the anti-incumbency is expected to be demonstrated by the electorate in the form of a vote against rising corruption, CanNajib a great role in warding off this impact.

MCA says  Setting up a RC on Hudud Law would be an unconstitutional act and therefore not lawful.Ibrahim Ali and UMNO explicitly planning to go against the Constitution, which protects the rights of all citizens/residents of Malaysia to practice their own faith? Even any discussion to consider implementing one’s religious beliefs on another is proselytisation, which the BN regime has clearly objected to after recent cases  Even the royal institutions have reservations to is practicality in the current local and global context. Foreign investors will shun Malaysia like cow-dung. Almost 40% population will probably ‘revolt’. Sabah and Sarawak will definitely shred their agreements and leave the federation. Islam in M’sia is not the true Islam. It is the political Islam. Then there is no need to implement hudud law in M’sia. M’sia is a secular state. All those who are harping on this hudud law are stupid and ignorant of the constitution. No 1 stupid guy is Ibrahim Ali. He needs a kick in the ass.The laws will only become meaningful when everyone abide to it. Especially the leaders from the ruling party to set as an example .
Can Malaysians get this into their thick skull ? Hudud comes under ‘family law’ and not ‘criminal law’. The Malaysian constitution does not allow for a dual criminal code. There is no constitutional provision to accomodate Hudud because as citizens we are equal before the law. Why is PAS and UMNO wasting time talkign about Hudud? Why not focus on Truth and Justice?Hudud law or whatever laws is meaningless when the ruling party’s leaders never heed it and created their own system to abusing it!e Instead, katak Ibrahim, there should be a RCI to investigate the selling of the country;s defence secrets to foreigners and other major scandals plaguing the nation. Hudud is not a pressing issue now. It is good when Hudud is implemented for the muslims so that people like you, katak, can be brought to the book. You are a first class two timer. This is blatant disregard and disrespect for the basic rights of others. Nobody is begrudging you the freedom to implement hudud for yourself but to impose on others who do not adhere to it or believe in it, that’s sheer DISRESPECT for other people’s right to their own beliefs.
MCA the biggest hypocrites of all time. ‘Hypocrite’ in Arabic is ‘munafiq’ have supported the proclamation of an Islamic state by former PM Dr Mahathir Mohamad. So what’s stopping you?PM Najib Razak’s effort to walk the middle path is going to waste, as more of his people are going towards the right – extremely.When PAS had proposed this idea, the hypocrites cried that it was backward, extremist, cruel and what not. But when a leader from Umno proposes hudud, the munafiq are suddenly all for it.a big plus point for PAS, and even for Pakatan Rakyat (although some may disagree).
The Umno leaders are now saying they opposed PAS’ brand of hudud because the Islamic law is for Muslims only. Whereas Umno is suggesting hudud for all.So for Chua Soi Lek and his supporters, their tails are now caught between their legs. This is a slap in the face for the MCA chief.instead of asking DAP or Karpal’s stance on PAS and hudud, now let’s put the question back to Chua and gang in MCA.Puteri Umno chief Rosnah Abdul Rashid Shirlin you great So, instead of asking DAP or Karpal’s stance on PAS and hudud, now let’s put the question back to Chua and gang in MCA.The government should set up a royal commission to draft the hudud law for the country, urged Malay rights group Perkas The party that has itself admitted to money politics and is embroiled in many scandals is now campaigning for hudud laws.’ wonder what MCA has to say about this. For a while they chastised DAP for not opposing PAS’ hudud ideology, when party chairperson Karpal Singh has openly and repeatedly voiced his opposition to the idea. Now MCA’s big brother Umno is pushing for the same thing. MCA chief Chua Soi Lek, where are you? How about a debate between MCA and Umno this time on the implementation of hudud?Umno-BN has said all along that in a multiracial country like ours, there is no room for hudud or an Islamic state it looks like you can never trust Umno and  wonder why the other BN coalition parties are keeping quiet on this matter, whilst when it comes to DAP/PAS, they dance to a different tune
   We’ve entered the silly season in our run up to the quadrennial television marketing extravaganza known as the US Presidential Election, but our do-nothing-but-pad-the-pockets-of-those-whose-pockets-are-already-padded Congress has truly stepped up the past two weeks.The Emir of Kuwait is faced at this very moment with the decision of approving a law that would impose the death penalty against unrepentant Muslims (and varying prison sentences upon others) who exercise their religious freedom of speech in a way deemed blasphemous. So far, this is the most extreme version of such a law in the region, and it is very surprising that it makes its appearance in enlightened Kuwait.Furthermore, similar though less draconian versions of this law have been recently adopted in Egypt and Tunisia. One year ago, hopes were high for these countries to usher in a new age of freedom, but the Arab spring is being viewed increasingly as an eruption of serious local, regional and global dimensions that will take a long time before its true character and impact is understood. In the meantime, we are witnessing unprecedented excesses, such as these anti-blasphemy laws, that must be addressed thoughtfully and effectively.
It is not sufficient to advise these countries to restrict their anti-blasphemy laws to cases of incitement to imminent violence or national security. In the era of the Arab spring, these criteria are often satisfied. Take the example of the young Egyptian Copt Gamal Abdou Massoud. His religiously offensive comments about Islam on Facebook led to riots in his village that soon spread to neighboring ones. Seven houses were burnt, both Muslim and Coptic, and a high level meeting between Muslim and Coptic religious leaders was convened to calm the situation. The court sentenced him to three years in prison. One could argue that the anti-blasphemy law was justified in this case. In fact, in reaching its verdict, the court in the Massoud case specifically mentioned the twin grounds of incitement to violence and threatening national securityREADMORE.http://muslimjournalmalaysia.blogspot.com/2012/07/dap-chairman-karpal-singh-you-can-sleep.html
All men are equal but some are more equal than others. In this country of 25million, the more equal citizens are those who are called the umno Untouchables, . If a common man is caught breaking the law he can be tried and punished, for the umno Untouchables the law is different, it seems. Even if accused of wrong doing, they can be let off the hook. All this can happen officially and within the provisions of law and the officer can be freed without standing trial. Read on to figure out how.case study in India  http://suarakeadilanmalaysia.blogspot.com/2012/07/mca-chinese-survives-bashing-islam.html

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